Beta test of pianoscope v2.0

MilanDka

Hello Frank
These are T177 and T186. Interval A0-C#3 or A0-C#4. Even a pure octave is not pure A0-A1

MilanDka

Hello, Frank,
About the tuning: do you know the name Mark Cerisano?
Website: HERE

Then I guess some people will understand what an experienced tuner listens to when tuning. I myself found out about him yesterday. But basically everything he lists makes a huge amount of sense, and he more or less uses it when tuning, we just couldn't describe it.
I think it could be strongly inspiring for you to develop a V3 tuning curve.
Yours sincerely to Frankfurt
Milan

Frank Illenberger

MilanDka Thanks for the hint. Yes, I know Mark. I talked to him twice and studied his course about tuning stability. He is a nice guy.

MilanDka

And how does Pianoscope behave in the calculation? Does it also calculate with other partial tones? How would the tuning in the bass look like if you used its interval ratios?
I don't really know anything about it. I'm just asking and trying to find a way to calculate a perfect tuning curve. 😉
It's not only about bass but also about discant.

MilanDka

Hello Frank
Anything new in the latest Beta? Looks like it's the RC version? Did you look at the warning about the change of the tuning curve from V1 to V2?
Have a nice evening.
Milan

Frank Illenberger

MilanDka Hello Milan, I am currently a bit short on time. The RC will still take some time as I am not yet fully satisfied with the tuning curves on some uprights. I have not forgotten your warning suggestion.

MilanDka

Hello, Frank,
does the app change the day/night theme even when it's on? Now if I want to change the theme to light after sunrise, I have to turn the device off/on.
Milan

Frank Illenberger

MilanDka Hello Milan, this is a system thing which is out of control of pianoscope. When you open the appearance options in the system settings for Display & Brightness, it says that on iPhones, the automatic change can be delayed until the screen is not used.

Rick

I’ve been using the pitch optimisation function a lot lately. Two things:

I think the bass pitch is weighted a bit too much.
When using the function for a new tuning it asks to use existing measurements but doesn’t include the top octave as it does for a saved tuning.

Frank Illenberger

Rick Hey Rick, thanks for testing it.

I am currently weighting all notes equally. Do you think it makes sense to weight the bass less because it has less strings to be moved?
This sounds like a bug. I will look into it.

Rick

Yes, I think the bass has less influence on the overall pitch. Just my thinking. Will there be another beta soon? This one stops in two days.
Keep up the good work👍

Frank Illenberger

Rick Yes, I will post a new beta tomorrow.

AlexHutor

Hello Frank! About the pitch optimization function. I think the last thing I want to do is change the pitch of the bass strings. In the bass, we have to work harder for the same change than in the treble section. Therefore, it is better to change the bass less.

Frank Illenberger

So to recap: Alex wants to weigh the bass stronger in the calculation (to result in less needed pitch change) and Rick wants to weigh it less. So this looks like we need a setting here. What do you think?

Rick

Perhaps I’m wrong?? I never feel the bass strings have as much to do with the rest of the piano.

Frank Illenberger

I have just released build 947 to TestFlight. It contains the following changes:

I implemented Milan's wish for an indicator which warns if one is using v1 tuning styles. It is now shown in the main tuning view behind the instrument name in the toolbar and in the tuning curve view.
I fixed the bug Rick found, namely that when optimizing concert pitch for a newly created document, it was not possible to record notes above C7. You can now do that and there is even a help text explaining this. You won't get any inharminicity measurement points for these notes, but you can record them if you want to.
I fixed a crash that occurred when trying to open the deviation chart for a fast-beating inverval.
I changed the graphical layout of the tuning view to better work with the Dynamic Island of the new iPhone 14 Pro.

I have not yet changed the weighting for the bass in the concert pitch optimization calculation, as I am still not sure whether we need a user selectable setting for it.

Rick

Frank Illenberger
I'm not sure if I was correct in stating "I think the bass pitch is weighted a bit too much."
I'll do some more testing.

MilanDka

Display error: if you put a device that has a notch in landscape, the information in the left header is not displayed correctly.

Frank Illenberger

MilanDka I'd like to fix that. Can you send me a screenshot of this problem?

MilanDka

It's only visible in the photo. It's fine on the screenshot. iPhone11

Frank Illenberger

MilanDka Thank you, Milan. This problem does only occur on the iPhone 12 Mini which has a very wide notch. I fixed it in the latest build 950.

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